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Oct 06

Dalai in a Tutu

Posted by Jawellnofine in visa , south african , religious , religion , politics , opinion , gambling , Dalai Lama , commentary , chinese , China , brouhaha


Why are we westerners making such a issue over a religious figure. One who belives in reincarnation and predestination. I mean, he has seen it all before.

I bet that he is having a quiet giggle to himself.
I also bet that the brouhaha has nothing to do with the way his visa application was dealt with or with the China syndrome (I bet that they, China, are also having a quiet giggle to themselves watching us westerners get all hot under the coller with each other.)
I will put my money on the fact that it has mostly to do with going against anything the SA government and or the ruling party says or does; just becouse we can. Government bashing is afterall the flavour of the day.
I bet that the media machine are enjoying all the hive of activity behind this controversy; lots of money is being made.

Then again, I have never been a good gambler. But maybe, just maybe, this time my money is safe.

Aug 19

Evolution Fail

Posted by thenack in thenack , Science , religion , mutation , Jesus , fail , evolution , e-coli , bible



Mar 22

Religions Compared

Posted by thenack in thenack , religion , funny


Sep 16

Creation vs Evolution: The Two Faiths!

Posted by thenack in religion , God , evolutionfaith , dawkins , darwin , Creationscienc , answersingenesis


Here is a cartoon about the Evolution vs Inteligent Design debate:

Sep 04

A picture (or at least a diagram) paints a thousand words

Posted by Dissol in religion , NYTimes , Data


Being stuck under prolonged house arrest has given me opportunity to catch up with some reading; I have been going through countless scientific papers recently.  I have also had chance to read many more news sites, from all around the world.

This article in the New York Times caught my eye.  After reading through different scientific papers, where they present data in a variety of different ways, I actually thought that this diagram is very, very powerful.  There are so many conclusions that you are able to draw from this clear representation of data.  To the extent that I am not going to comment - you can draw your own conclusions!!

May 24

Zeitgeist review

Posted by OS GIKEN in Zeitgeist the movie , Zeitgeist , Venus Project , Rockerfeller , religion , Illuminati , Humanoid , H+ , freedom


I know Zeitgeist is not a new development; there are tons of internet conspiracy theorists out there just waiting for someone to subscribe to entertain their thoughts. One has to think that the people behind the famous debunking have too much time on their laborers hands coming up with these kinds of mythical explanations for the way things are in the world today. I, for one, am not easily moved by conspiracies or debunked theories, but Zeitgeist movement has made me think, which is what I believe their mission objective is.


For a full review you can view this website, I'd just like to give account of my thoughts behind the matter. 1st of all, the idea that these guys have too much time must be debunked, the sheer volume of research will give any research professor a stiffy, and the time that went into the movie is pure dedication to prove the elitist exists and to prove the government is behind most of the sick crimes that has an element of mystery surrounding them. I have to take my hat off to these guys who seemed like they've dedicated their lives to proving that the Illuminati exists today, and that they have secret dealings with the government of the age, and that high ranking officials are behind each and every conceivable wrong in the world, and that we as citizens of this world, are all brainwashed by the media and we are somehow controlled and in this essence, we are not free.

There are too many topics to focus on, and I feel like watching the movie again and again just to wrap my mind around what these guys are proposing. So I'll jump around topics as they come into mind. Illuminati

No freedom:

According to these guys, we are not free, we are fools for thinking we are free, by openly and willingly participating in economies and adding to it through working everyday, we are slaves to the rich elite, who are the only ones profiting from our labour at the end of the day. Their idea is that by working for money, we are not free, we are slaves of debt, and repaying debt will be our be all and end all. Once we've rid ourselves of debt, we should no longer work for debt, this is how you are free, but then if I'm still working, if not for debt, I'm doing it t sustain my life, to keep surviving, to be alive, the elitist are still gaining off my labour, am I still a slave because I'm working for the sake of staying alive? This leads me to the following topic;

Project Venus:

Project venus

Jaques Fresco, an architect and some clever guy, is working on a project that kind of like resembles heaven, no money, no worries, no working, no laws, no state - basically everyone living in unity together and being happy. It seems these guys are crazier than we thought. He is of the firm belief that if we can demolish the need for money and want, by using the earth's resources, which is abundant according to him, we all can have what we want and need, there will be no scarcity, no one controlling the resources, thus we will have what we want, so we won't need things, there will be no laws prohibiting us from anything, if we want, we can get. This flawed view, is striking because its our nature, as humans to be flawed, he, Jaques is flawed as well! So, if Jaques gets us to subscribe to his level of thinking, we should embrace the technology we have at hand, let automation take place, we don't have to work, as we already have what we want remember...he is suggesting an H+ view shared by people of Illuminati standpoint! H+ is where people embrace radical ideas such as human enhancement, robotic features, allowing people to do what they cannot; it starts with harmless aids like allowing people that cannot walk, to get robotic legs and allowing them that freedom to walk again. H+ represents the new world (Illuminati) where humans are in sync with robots, technology...

Religion, state, banks - they rule us:


The thinking here is that all these entities was created to control man, to control our thoughts, our actions, and to get us to act a certain way. I.e. Christianity was created to control people, to make them think there is a deity that looks down on all and judges them...I'm a born again Christian, I was shocked at the allegations of my beliefs being fake and God not existing, and that the entire Bible is a lie and that the universe is what we should look to for inspiration etc...I was trying hard to not be biased, but I guess we'll have to die, and then we'll see whether God and Jesus exists or not...I'm a firm believer. Again, the idea is that I'm being controlled, my thoughts, my actions, by the Christian religion. I don't believe in religion, I believe that Christ has saved me etc. Same with the state, a government - it controls me, and it dictates my actions... The banks as well, its ruled by corrupt individuals all with the same agenda, to control me and make a slave of me by forcing me to work and obey their rules.

Elitist families:


This one is of particular the movie they have recordings of one film producer who was friends with one of the Rockefeller’s, one of the richest families in the entire universe, lol. And the conversation went to the point where the Rockefeller guy was admitting to the producer guy that the ultimate goal of the family and its interests, is to one day have a chip implanted into each and every person on earth, and control them...and if they don't do as commanded, the chip will simply be switched off...yes, these guys have these kinds of conversations, this new world order thing. Elitist families have their hands in each and every conceivable operation in the entire world, thus they remain elite, rich. Apparently they run governments etc. The thinking here is that we should not be fooled, governments don't run countries, but companies run countries, companies who's board members are surprisingly, in some way, connected to the elite of the world!

Explanation for everything:


The thing about the Zeitgeist movement, is that they have an explanation for every single thing! WWI and WWII are all secretly carried out by the USA and its connections in office with secret societies. All wars are meant to make money, and they have former CIA and MI6 agents confirming this illusion! These people, these elite, want to control the world, they want to rid the world of governments and create a one government world, meaning each country will have one government!

Its all been said before:

All of these allegations, these radical ideas and theories, have all been said before, to make you change your current mindset. Apparently Zeitgeist is here to open your eyes and expose you to what the elitist are busy with. To me, it all sounds like a movie plot that was never realized and now people are following with it.

In conclusion:

I don't know

I understand that this is a very rough, to the point, short review about the Zeitgeist movies and what they represent. You should go watch it yourself and think about what they propose. Watch it with an open mind, and then after each chapter, decide what you want to believe. The world is such a sick place, that I, for one don't brush these allegations off as some fantasy someone thought of. I also don't let this get to me and change my mindset. This kind of cultist behavior, is exactly why people should know who they are and what they stand for. In today's world, too many people don't know who they are, they don't understand how the world works, they cannot make decisions for themselves, we are bombarded with media(which the Zeitgeit claim is also controlling us) that affect out decisions day in and day out each and every second of our existence. Watch this knowing who you are, because movements like this are dangerous, cults emanate from radical ideologies as such, and actions is next to follow. It seems like a movie plot, seriously! After you've watched it, it somehow makes you think of the ifs. You get the sense of "no, it can't be, not in our world" but I'm of the firm belief that our world is a sick place with many sick people that have their own agenda's. The elitist are a scary and strange bunch, and with money still being the root of all evil in this world, I no doubt say that what is said in the Zeitgeits movies can be true, if not, we'll find out once we're dead.

May 14

Atheists (whatever) prepare to be humiliated

Posted by thenack in sakkie spannenberg , religion , philosophy , licona , lane craig , hansie wolmarans , God , Christianity , atheism


Wednesday marked a somewhat historic moment in South African history with the first (that I know of) internation philosophical formal public debate between Christians and atheist/naturalists.

South Africans in general are lazy thinkers and also lazy communicators. Whe are not used to these types of debates, but they are quite popular internationally, and even part of election campaigns. You have to know your stuff or you will be humiliated. Of course, with african politics lying and shouting will always get you of the hook, nê Malema. That is, however, not the point.

The two sides in the debate were Dr William Lane Craig ( ) and Dr Michael Licona (ex TUKS which went up against prof Sakkie Spannenberg ( and Prof Hansie Wolmarans (( of the new reformation movement.

The topic of the debate was:

A. Did the writers of the New Testament want their readers to understand with that Jesus rose physically from the dead?

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