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Banks ruled by greed

Posted by: barrmar

Tagged in: Charges , Banks , Bank Fees

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Imagine my shock when I discovered that a R50 ATM withdrawal from a non-FNB ATM incurs a transaction fee of R32. I can only imagine what that fee escalates to when the withdrawal is in the region of R1000 or R2000. 

By contrast a withdrawal from the same bank in Europe costs a mere R25 from any ATM for any amount! 

Bank charges in South Africa have long been a matter of concern. They are believed to be amongst the highest in the world. 

Most of the banks are busy with cutting staff to increase their profitability. It isn't that they are not profitable - they produce some of the highest profits of any industry sector in the country. It is just that their profits were less than was promised to the shareholders. 

That was the reason for Standard Bank's dramatic retrenchments just over a year ago and the expected retrenchments by the other banks. 

The problem is that the banks have become extremely risk averse. Following the sub-prime crisis in the US and the subsequent collapse of many banks, South African banks followed the world banking trend and stopped lending money to all but a select few. 

In stark contrast to the pre-credit Act flurry of issuing credit to all and sundry, the banks have now become ultra conservative. Getting finance for a car, a home or anything else has become one of the most difficult tasks in the world. 

Of course the main way that banks make money is by providing credit. The Credit Act did place limits on who banks could lend to, but the banks have gone far beyond this making finance very difficult to obtain. If the banks do not make money from credit, then there are only banking fees to bring in the profits. 

South African banks have traditionally charged more simply because they could. There is little competition and if one bank puts up its fees, then the others are bound to follow. 

Even with the credit crunch, UK banks still manage to provide transactions for free. I wonder how they manage?

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Jawellnofine
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written by Jawellnofine, May 30, 2011
Banks are in the business of making money. It is the nature of the beast.

Unfortunately the system does not really allow for one to store money in mattresses, etc. Banks and SARS always want to know where the money comes from. Employers will very seldom pay moneys directly to a person.

And of course, the crime scenario also forces the issue of not storing money at one's convenience.

I for one would not put money into a bank except for the system that wants me to and kinda forces me to.
barrmar
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written by barrmar, May 30, 2011
I can use my UK ATM card in any machine in the UK for free! I can use it abroad for £2 (about R23). I can also do (local) transfers, deposits etc. for free. Fees are only applied if you go into overdraft without authorisation or for more unusual transactions.
South Africa is also the only country (to my knowledge) where the recipient bank also takes a cut from PayPal earnings.
Of course banks are there to make money. So are retailers.
It never ceases to amaze me that retailers find it necessary to charge so my more in SA than they do overseas for the same goods.
Prime examples are Apple computers. Why is the retail price here almost double of the US price? I can import one from the US, pay the taxes due and the cost of shipping - all at retail prices - and still save a fortune on the purchase price!
Jawellnofine
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written by Jawellnofine, May 31, 2011
Personally I don not like comparing one country with another as the societies and socio-political environments are quite different from one another: like comparing apples with pears and expecting a similar result.

The unemployment rate in SA is huge, thus the base that keeps the country running is limited to the working few.

If I could, I would stay away from Banks in general, but unfortunately, certain realities are forced upon me which forces me into a certain way of life.

Of course we as SA consumers are being screwed left centre and right by our loving service providers.

It is like being constantly told that we must tighten our belts and to become frugal, whereupon our loving powers-that-be carry on increasing the country's deficit base!?

Is there a solution to this complex problem?
barrmar
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written by barrmar, May 31, 2011
In the past (pre-94) South Africa was a closed economy. Although we have been an open-economy for quite a while now, our service providers and the consumers still have the closed economy mentality - which means that the service providers can milk us and we happily comply.
Of course we are relatively remote from the developed world - even though our economy is open, the economies that we deal with are far away.
Jawellnofine
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written by Jawellnofine, May 31, 2011
an open economy SA may be but the public sentiment is widely social in nature - living on the breadline, homelessness and unemployment. All scenarios that negate capitalistic presepts.

Why not use a Lotto payout to eradicate poverty?



RichChic
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written by RichChic, September 15, 2011
Absolutely! We are being so ripped off here, it is unbelievable!! The thing I always find amazing? You need debt to get into debt. I wanted to apply for a credit card recently as I wanted to have an emergency back up fund in addition to my savings. However because I have no debt, I couldn't get a credit card!!! I had to open up clothing accounts, keep them for at least 6 months (and of course use them!) before they would 'review' my situation. As you say, the fees keep getting higher and higher....
Jawellnofine
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written by Jawellnofine, September 15, 2011
the system requires for the masses to move money around. can you imagine a society that is totally debt free? How will business make money if no one is paying interest on moneys borrowed?

the system is in dire need of an overall!?

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